Term
Around the Post
Also called: ATP
A shot that goes around the outside of the post into the opponent's court, instead of over the net.
A shot that goes around the outside of the net post into the opponent's court, instead of passing over the top of the net (13.C, pickleball.com). You may get a chance to hit one when an opponent's sharply angled dink or drive pulls you far outside the sideline (The Dink).
The ball may travel lower than the height of the net (Selkirk, A shot around the post (ATP) is legal). If the ball goes between the net and the post, or under the net, it is a fault (13.D.1, 13.E.1).
Erne vs. ATP
| Erne | ATP | |
|---|---|---|
| How you hit it | Volley (no bounce) (pickleball.com) | No rule about whether it must be a volley (13.C) |
| Where you hit it | Near the net, after jumping over or going around the corner of the non-volley zone (kitchen) (pickleball.com) | Far outside the sideline, where you were pulled wide (The Dink) |
| Path of the ball | Over the top of the net | Not over the net; around the outside of the post (13.C) |
Both shots are often hit from outside the sideline. An erne is a volley you hit after going around the corner of the kitchen (pickleball.com). An ATP sends a ball that pulled you wide back from outside the post (The Dink).
See it in a figure
This figure is from the rule "A shot around the post (ATP) is legal".
How to read the sources: numbers like (8.F.4) are rulebook sections, and links are outside sources. An "Author's note" is the author's personal experience, not an official rule.